Johnwilliamson062 - Thanks for the extra pics, especially the close up of the rear adjustment knobs and the front slide rail. (This, by the way, is the same scope and mount that Hathcock mounted and used, not only on a M70 but also on a Ma Deuce.) I have a genuine Unertl "USMC Sniper" 8x on a Winchester 52, and while the picture is a tad yellow, this combination has no difficulty knocking spent 12-gauge shells off a target frame at 100 yards. There is no way Unertl or Unertl-type scopes and mounts could be manufactured today for what mass-produced Japanese and Chinese scopes with internal adjustment tubes and, frankly, better optics are sold. The real reason you don't see something like this today, though, is economics. And the sheer length of the scope and girth of the mount made them, well, other than svelte. Some models using fine wire crosshairs werer a tad fragile. By today's standards, the optics were a bit crude and the light gathering capability was limited. These scopes weren't perfect, but the issues had nothing to do with the external mounts. And, contrary to what you might think, the scope returned to perfect zero every time. Scopes and mounts were made (by hand) by John Unertl and by Lyman. I hope I get to know some of the members here, and can both contribute and learn from one another for years to come.Actually, this design was very popular at one time, both for military precision shooting and for target shooting, both centerfire and rimfire. I'm not sure if I will build a clone M40A1, hold off for a Barrett (416 for CA) or put it on something else, but for not I have it on our mantle. What Is really cool is that I believe if I were to zero this at 300 years, you could use the BDC and fine adjustments to be on target from 100-500 yards based on the numbers I saw and calculations I ran.
I found two tables for 50 cal, and two tables for the 30 Cal scopes as well. Can anyone confirm?Īfter some searching, I was able to find some information about the BDC.
Besides the modified 30 Caliber to 50 Caliber conversions, I believe this would be the first scope in the series, since the 30 Cal Scopes started at 1001, can we assume 50 cal started at 5001. They have not come up recently at the auctions, but when I saw SN 5001, I went for it.
I've been keeping an eye on the CMP Unertl Scopes for a long time now, and had decided I wanted an original (non US Optics Modification) 50 Caliber Scope. I always thought part of the allure of the scope was the fact that you couldn't purchase them. Whoever I spoke with was kind enough to mail me some catalogs which were just paper copies of their available scopes. I actually called Unertl Optics to see if I could buy one, this must have been late 90's and I believe it was his John Unertl's wife who said they didn't sell them to the public (not that I could have afforded one if they did). Every since I read Marine Sniper in middle school, I was fascinated by the Unertl scopes. I now work in the biotech industry in Souther California, and enjoy regularly going to the range with my wife where we shoot everything from handguns and carbines to my long range rifles up to 338 Lapua (Desert Tech).Īlthough I was not a sniper, I always found their equipment and operations interesting, I think it was my interest in precision equipment and shooting. I was an enlisted US Marine from 2002-2007, and used the GI Bill to attend college. I have gathered a lot of information about precision shooting over the years from this site, and finally joined today.
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